In episode 45 of The HR Famous Podcast, long-time HR leaders (and friends) Tim Sackett and Jessica Lee are joined by special guest Laurie Ruettimann to discuss her new book called Betting On You.
[Editor’s note: Laurie is also joining TLNT for a webinar titled “Can HR Fix People?” on Tuesday, Jan. 19, at 2 p.m. ET. Register here. It’s part of TLNT’s new Questioning Authority series, which challenges leading thinking by talking to leading thinkers.]
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Show Highlights:
2:00 – Tim opens up the episode with a discussion about pronouns prompted by this tweet. JLee mentions that they/them can feel like the only option for some people and so she understands why some people would want pronouns that are unique to someone.
5:30 – Tim welcomes on today’s guest, Laurie Ruettimann! She is a longtime friend of the pod, and we are happy to have her on today’s episode!
7:45 – Laurie has a new book coming out soon called Betting On You. She says that she wrote the book because she felt stagnant in her HR roles and wanted to create the book that she would have wanted in this phase of her life.
9:30 – Laurie mentions the phenomenon that HR employees tend to forget they are employees too and that they need to trust themselves and the issues that they see.
11:00 – JLee asks Laurie what she thinks makes her book stand out from others. She says that she just wants to tell stories and her experience. She doesn’t claim to be an expert but she wants to relay messages she’s learned from her work experiences.
12:00 – The crew takes a quick sidebar to talk about their favorite Peloton instructors (Team Dennis or Team Cody?).
14:00 – Laurie mentions that many different movements of this past year have caused a lot of self-reflection about our lives and our morals and how this themes of her book follow along with this journey.
17:30 – Tim asks JLee if she thinks there will be a reckoning for more traditional white-collar environments post-pandemic. She thinks that the traditional way cannot keep going on in the way that it has for a long time.
22:00 – JLee thinks that people forget how much choice they have. Not only do they choose to work somewhere but they choose to go into work everyday. Laurie thinks that embracing that perspective as an HR professional can change how systems work.
24:20 – Laurie brings up the fact that FBI agents are taught to detach themselves from their work and that they have an identity outside of your job.
26:50 – Tim asks Laurie about things they can do to combat burnout. She says one of her favorites is that your personal life should go on your professional calendar first. She thinks so many of us are victims to the Outlook calendar.
29:30 – Tim heard a story about how your life is juggling five balls. The ball for your job is rubber but the other four are glass. You can rebound from dropping the job ball but the glass balls will cause real damage.