On episode 89 of the HR Famous podcast, long-time HR leaders (and friends) Tim Sackett, Jessica Lee, and Kris Dunn come together to discuss gifted book recommendations, letting employees hire for new roles, and helping your children negotiate job offers.
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2:30 – Shoutout to JLee’s brother-in-law, Eugene!
5:00 – Tim is on yet another vacation with his wife and family to Hawaii! He bought a few books for this trip and he asked the crew if they were going to give a book to someone for the holidays, what book would they give?
6:30 – KD’s recommendations include Conspiracy by Ryan Holiday and American Kingpin by Nick Bilton.
8:00 – JLee recommends Plant Therapy for the plant lovers and Act like a Leader, Think Like a Leader by Hereminia Ibarra for the business folk. Tim recommends Living, Loving, and Learning by Leo Buscaglia.
13:00 – Lots of great book recs this episode! KD recommends fiction writer Douglas Copeland.
14:20 – Tim recently wrote a blog post asking, “What if we let our normal employees make a hire?” This would involve almost none of the normal application process; no interview, no resumes, no filler.
17:00 – KD says that to an extent, companies already do this with the adage “everyone’s a recruiter.”
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19:45 – Tim thinks that small orgs can test this hiring practice and do it on a much smaller scale rather than a huge scale at a major corporation.
23:45 – JLee tells a story about her first interview at Marriott. JLee wasn’t a typical hire since she didn’t come from a huge brand and a prestigious university.
26:00 – Tim says you have to be careful with whom you hand this hiring responsibility to, but notes that some companies that are struggling to find employees have nothing to lose.
27:00 – Tim’s son and podcast producer, Cam, just recently accepted a new job offer. He asked Tim if he should negotiate his job offer and Tim said of course. Tim was super nervous that as soon as he negotiated, that his offer would get pulled.
31:30 – KD asks JLee about how many managers would step away from an offer if someone tried to negotiate with them. JLee thinks less than 10%.